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Weapon types and oversized

Mogu
Posts: 162
2/6/2024, 9:04:58 PM
Make axe=blade instead of shaft.

After playing a giant recently I noticed a distinct lack of oversized blades and segments available. The ideal oversized blade (huge iron sword) and segment (meteor hammer) are both unique and have been held by Kryton for over a year. I'm not saying everyone should get those but there should be more and better options.

Oversized blades: as it stands there is the huge iron sword (unique), Gonturan greatsword (unique, orderly), bastard sword (good only), and emerald longsword. Below that you're looking at avg 20 or lower.

Oversized segments: meteor hammer (unique), flail of eternity (unique), and karakken tentacles (avg 22), golden claw (exotic segment, orderly).

There are many two-handed blades and segments but that doesn't help for overbearing with large characters. By making axe=blade this issue will be mitigated for blades. Perhaps some of the existing two-handers (blades and/or exotic segments) could be changed to oversized.
Lumubella
Posts: 438
2/7/2024, 12:35:32 AM
You could just kill Kryton and take his. Just saying. Bring a few friends.

All joking aside it makes sense. You have spears, maces, polearms and axes for shafts where you only have sword and dagger for blade. The only counter I have to this argument is that it makes dual axes a hard counter to those I see out there using spear and shield.
BlackWidow
Posts: 616
2/7/2024, 1:12:19 AM
You forgot to note, Mogu: exotics can't be double gripped (this is noted in the help file).

I know this because I had a half-elf warrior some time back who regularly double gripped a flail as that was the only two-handed segment weapon consistently available to her (bows really didn't count).
Xenyar
Posts: 690
2/7/2024, 2:20:19 AM
The forged war sword is Gasteride's place was originally oversized but got changed to two-handed. That can be reverted. The pain of the damned(35 lbs) and vorpal(33 lbs.)...make is so that part of their uniqueness is they can be double-gripable by all warrior races that have the strength to wield them. The Greatsword of Gonturan, remove the orderly flag so it can worn by all. That'd be a start.
Scrynor
Posts: 136
2/10/2024, 1:50:38 AM
Dead body wrapped in chains could be a flail. Aren't you swinging the body around by the chains?

I always thought it would make sense if the high offense low defense weapons were split between type. Logically, that would make axe a blade, flail a shaft (just as much shaft there as most maces), whip a segment. Right? Although to BlackWidow's point making flail a shaft could make the problem worse for segment even if the axe move made it better for blades...

Add more weapons!
Davairus
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Posts: 10674
7/16/2024, 10:39:15 AM
I think we need to figure the implications more before just swapping axe to blades.. for example I think it might be useful for a dwarf warrior to be able to wear an axe (favored weapon) against a water cube. Obviously not having to deal with getting sidestepped would be nice for minotaur berserker.